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2Spunky

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Remembering Robert Manwill...
« on: August 20, 2009, 10:59:16 AM »
Art said he would start a category for Robert and move this over
for us as soon as he gets a chance. 
       
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 10:59:47 AM by 2Spunky »
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 11:09:56 AM »
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/871177.html?storylink=omni_popular

thank you for the thread for little Robert, Art and Spunky

this is the latest article I found when I binged Robert's name

Summary is Robert's mother had unsupervised visitations with Robert, his bio dad had custody.  Mother was charged and convicted in the past of fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half sibling, lost custody of said sibling and regained custody after appx two months.  Robert's bio dad also lost a son by another mother to violence in the home a few years ago. 
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 11:12:03 AM »
IMO the details of this case will rival the horror of little Sandra Cantu's case.
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 12:39:24 PM »
Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

"Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office."


http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html
Man 'sick' as police search his yard; father of mother's boyfriend says son accused him

"Daniel Ehrlick Sr. said that his son Daniel had accused him of taking Robert and that police had questioned him repeatedly."

"Ehrlick Sr. and his youngest son, David, told a story of a boy that was constantly in trouble with his mother for the pettiest of infractions. David Ehrlick said that Robert was not allowed to go outside and play during a recent birthday party.

"It was scary around her with her children. Robert would get in trouble for everything. It didn't matter if it was asking a question, he'd get grounded. He'd have to sit on his hands," said David Ehrlick. "He's just a little boy."

Said Ehrlick Sr.: "That's why I was afraid to even say, 'Robert, let's go fishing.'"

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Ehrlick Sr's accounts of what he saw in regards to Roberts Mother's behavior towards Robert conflicts greatly with other statements made by other eye witnesses. IIRC some of the other witnesses were neighbors.

I'll have to dig those statements up later.

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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 01:17:49 PM »
Thank you Ocenview. I did sign his book. This is getting to be too much!!! We have 5 times the child *banned word*s here than anywhere else in the world. Why?
Art, you are sooo great! Thanks always for all you do! Stay healthy and strong. Many need you.

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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 03:40:05 PM »
Thank you Ocenview. I did sign his book. This is getting to be too much!!! We have 5 times the child *banned word*s here than anywhere else in the world. Why?
Art, you are sooo great! Thanks always for all you do! Stay healthy and strong. Many need you.

Hi, joni, why?  Alcohol, drugs, stupidity and a huge general disregard for human life, IMO

everything about us suggests we are a disposable society, and this includes the most vulnerable amongst us.....our children
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 04:58:01 PM »
Here is a link to the official "My Space" page, in memory of Robert.

http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill

I hadn't seen this page myself until a few minutes ago.
Such a beautiful little boy.
I'm speechless.

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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 05:04:50 PM »
I couldn't find the specific article I was looking for where the neighbor had nothing but good things to say about Robert's Mother.

Here in this article is another person whose comments were very similar to Daniel Erhlick Sr's.
It is the words and thoughts of Melissa Jenkins ex husband, Frank Seiber.
(Her second husband.)

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/869934.html

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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 01:00:40 AM »
Here is a link to the official "My Space" page, in memory of Robert.

http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill

I hadn't seen this page myself until a few minutes ago.
Such a beautiful little boy.
I'm speechless.
This tore me up...from Roberts MySpace page:

Don K. wrote this poem especially for Robert and we would like to share it with you.
Robert We look, but cannot find you... We shout, but cannot hear you… We hope, but cannot see you… We love, but cannot touch you… I know you are here, I feel it in my soul, But where is here? And how did you go? I wait… we wait, in the shadows of hope And fear. This child is now our child, And his absence is our tears. If you cannot call or ask for help, Or make a sound that we might hear. Please, don’t give up or abandon hope, For there are people here Who will not stop while you’re alone, Who will not stop until you’re home. We will look until we find you, light a candle so you may see, A light of hope in all the darkness, And a prayer to set you free. This little light of mine, I’m gonna let it shine, Let is shine your way back home. God, we know he’s out there, somewhere we can’t see. If he’s well, then let us save him; If we can’t, then give us wings. Wings that we might hold him, and take him home again, Wings to cry and say goodbye, And carry him to heaven.
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 07:41:24 AM »
Here is a link to the official "My Space" page, in memory of Robert.

http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill

I hadn't seen this page myself until a few minutes ago.
Such a beautiful little boy.
I'm speechless.

Thank you for that link I had not seen it.  I don't know what to say, like you, the pictures are adorable, and the thought that someone could intentionally, brutally, repeatedly hurt this small, defenseless child....and someone else could let them, the very people who were supposed to love and cherish him, well, its beyond my comprehension.  Pure evil is alive and well in this world and takes many forms, sometimes its human.

God bless you, Robert, you will never be forgotten by thsi grandma, that's for sure.
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 07:49:59 AM »
I cannot cry, I cannot cry, I am at work. 
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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 04:29:23 PM »
I cannot cry, I cannot cry, I am at work. 

I hear ya. I am so sad but too I am so angry about what has happened to this little boy! Very angry!
I just cannot understand how it is that Robert's Mother was allowed unsupervised visitation so soon after being charged with fracturing the skull of her baby.
Who is protecting the Children?




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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2009, 02:30:13 AM »
i have seen many friends fall to the war in irag, yet this has made me cry,world is a strange place and sometimes you need to let go, god bless you robert as you have touched many hearts

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Re: Remembering Robert Manwill...
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2009, 01:51:55 PM »
i have seen many friends fall to the war in irag, yet this has made me cry,world is a strange place and sometimes you need to let go, god bless you robert as you have touched many hearts

I understand what you are saying Draven. At the same time there are a lot of us who just can't let go. It's like a piece of each one of us is taken every time we hear about a fallen soldier who had stood up to fight a percieved threat against this Nation and each and every citizen therein.
Iraq and Afghanistan are the currents but there were many other past wars too. One of my Great Uncles survived the Bataan Death March. He was a hero in his time. For me he still is ~May he rest in Peace~. To hear my Father tell it I might as well as known this man who had passed before I was ever able to meet him. My Great Uncle and many others in my family, including my Father and Brother, fought in wars to protect this Nation and me. I own that. I am very proud of them all. I am humbled by their selfless and courageous acts.
As we both know, it is also a war against Child abuse here. Things are not so perfect otherwise Robert Manwill would still be alive and Haleigh Cummings would not be missing or worse. There are many other cases that come to mind also. The laws and proceedures need to be looked at more closely IMO. A lot of people hear that and they worry that changes would mean more tax dollars spent. I am of the thinking that it should mean that tax dollars would and could be spent more wisely. I would challenge the courts to be less lenient on those who would commit violent acts against the Children of this great Nation. The Children are our future and if we do not protect them what does that say about our future?
My thinking is also that the courts were to lenient in the case against Robert Manwill's Mother, based on the evidence presented against her in regards to what she had done to her baby. Sure she admitted her wrongdoing but there was another Child who's life was at stake here. From what I read about the babies injuries it is clear to me that it is a miracle that the baby survived.
There were warning signs in this particular case that would warrant supervised visitation only and more. That is what I percieve after reading about this case.

I am just another citizen of this great Country and if all I can do is to voice that opinion then there by the grace of God and for all who have been here before me and all who will be here long after me, I go.

(My appologies for the long comment.)  :-[
I also want to let you know that I very much appreciate your thoughts and ideas.