Bald Truth Exclusive: Virgie Arthur “Defamers?” Those She Sued Fire Back: Stern, CBS, KPRC-TV: All Ask, How Can ANYONE Defame Virgie, LOL? Lawsuits Removed to Federal Court (Whew!)
By Art Harris, (c) www.artharris.com, all rights reserved
In another web exclusive, The Bald Truth has learned that Howard K. Stern, CBS Television and KPRC-TV in Houston have launched a triple legal broadside back at Virgie Arthur, and her Texas legal cowboys, denying all charges they conspired with her late daughter, Anna Nicole Smith, to defame, slander, trash or maim the reputation of a retired Texas deputy sheriff who they say thrust herself into the public eye.
Indeed, the responses to her defamation suit, filed in Harris County, Texas, then transferred to federal court Nov. 5, question how anyone could do any more damage to Virgie Arthur’s public image than the late Playboy centerfold’s mother has already done to herself. Beyond Arthur’s public antics, the petitions, obtained by The Bald Truth and posted below, argue that Anna Nicole’s mother reinvented herself as a public figure, cite truth as a defense and maintain that, as for CBS-TV, which owns Entertainment Tonight, no one arm-twisted Anna Nicole Smith to tell ET of her horrid childhood under Mama’s bigtop.
Read and enjoy the legal rumble, as Howard K. Stern asks for a dismissal based on jurisdictional holes–he’s no native Texan, so not subject to Lonestar justice (whew), he argues; KPRC-TV of Houston says, hey, we only broadcast the ET interview of Anna, we didn’t produce it, so go smoke some more tumbleweed, pals; and, well, CBS argues all the above and more… and all demand not only her questionable defamation case be sent packing, but seek attorneys fees and maybe more and look forward to arguing the case in federal court, rather than Harris County, where Arthur initially filed.
Take a look for yourself…
howard-k-stern-response-to-virgie-suit.pdf
cbs-response-to-virgie-suit.pdf
November 7th, 2007 at 3:49 am
Alright!!! This is great!! What a great day!!!
But I’m telling ya, I hate to be the one to burst everyones bubble. Every other time something has gone well for Howard, something bad about Anna, Howard or maybe this time Larry just happens to “break”. I hope I’m wrong of course, but I’m willing to bet we can be expecting something bad to come out rather soon.
November 7th, 2007 at 6:04 am
It’s sad that Anna’s mother has resorted to all she has done. When my mum died it was a very sad day, when she was alive no matter what MY choices were she supported me, good or bad! It is unfortunate Anna did not have that, with her mom! Sad,sad.
And even more unfortunate her Mom is lashing out at the very people that DID support, her little girl!
November 7th, 2007 at 7:04 am
Even without the Anna Nicole tape, Virgie’s public antics and her underhanded tactics to gain control and money clearly illustrate what kind of person she is. I only hope she gets what she deserves for the pain and suffering she has inflicted especially on Howard and Larry and their families for her personal advantage and financial gain.
November 7th, 2007 at 7:41 am
You know folks.this lawsuit,that Virgie is bringing against HOWARD,CBS ,and KPRC-TV,might just might give Virgie a insight into herself,before she entirely self destructs.It will be very expensive and that will hurt her the most,She will see herself through the eyes of others.NOT A GOOD PICTURE.After all is said and done,she will have to face the fact,SHE AND SHE ALONE,destroyed ,the love Anna COULD have had for her,THIS LAWSUIT PROVES,HER CAREER WAS ALL IMPORTANT,NOT HER DAUGHTER.Her punishment,will be living the rest of her life,thinking what COULD have been.PS missing the growing up of her granddaughter,who is part of Anna,VIRGIE,I DID NOT FORM MY OPINION OF YOU,ANYWHERE,BUT WHAT I SAW YOU DO,Anna was so beside herself over danniel death,and what did you do,at the burial,what did you do and with larry,a young new father,what did you do,Howard and larry care more for dannielynn,then you would ever.NOW YOU HAVE DESTROYED YOURSELF IN THE EYES OF THE PUPLIC/
November 7th, 2007 at 8:43 am
Amazing point .. Vergie put herself infront of the limelight willingly, hence leaving her open to discetion.
And if the interview that Anna had done for ET was that upsetting to Vergie then she should have dealt her legal ramblings etc sent to Anna.
Seems that matters are falling into place FINALLY.
Go Howard!! GO !! Teach them the law that governs EVERYONE not just select members of society as they would like to believe
November 7th, 2007 at 9:00 am
Art I have so been waiting for this anwser to VA suit.Seems Like HKS through it right back in o’quinns face or I should say McCabe since he is now representing VA.IMO she has huirt her own case with her public display in NY.I still think they are trying anything to get HKS to Texas for some Texas bullying in a Texas Type deposition.All these smalle5r suits take a mind off the big ones IMO anyway
November 7th, 2007 at 9:06 am
It is time that the people responsible for the continued unwarranted bashing of Howard and Larry are taken to task for their actions. IMO, Rita and Opri are already receiving their slap…now it is time for a Virgie slap! Take that Mommie Dearest! Stay strong guys, truth will prevail.
November 7th, 2007 at 9:16 am
LOL.
November 7th, 2007 at 9:56 am
Virgie is totally crazy. What a hoot! She needs to stop before more damages are done to her so called reputation. Those other bones are rattling right now in that make shift closet, so she’d better try to keep them in there. It blows my mind the effect of the lust for money has on some people. She is a real mother, go figure.
November 7th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Exactly Art…how can anyone deflame Virgie…She did it to herself…
I was all for her, until she got on the stand in FL and lied. And then when she filed an appeal to get Anna’s body, and the kicker was when she held up the funeral of Anna in the Bahamas…
She said she wanted to be a grandma, but wouldn’t drop the custody suit…
She says one thing, but does another…
Nope, Virgie and only Virgie has herself to blame for the way I think of her.
November 7th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Could (O’Quinn) … be any more of a dufus? And Virgie …for her attention … addiction,seems to go along with whatever he wants to do as long as he keeps her in make-overs and…buffets.This lawsuit made her look even more ridiculous!!!!
This suit should have been filed on APRIL 1….!
my judgement in for the defendants in this case,dismissed with court costs to be paid by the plantiff…lmaooo
(I’ve trimmed out attacks on JOQ for health related issues, caloric attack on VA, and a couple of nasty words we don’t need to use. But I hear you. Art)
November 7th, 2007 at 10:19 am
Most people I know have been disgusted by Virgie’s actions since Anna Nicole’s death. When Virgie got all dressed up and “pertty-like” for Rita Cosby’s book party, she stated that she “loved” Rita’s book – a book that trashed her own daughter! Virgie Arthur is a real piece of work!
November 7th, 2007 at 11:00 am
IMO, nobody defamed Virgie but her freakin self. Maybe if she sat back quietly and ate her dunkin donuts, Anna wouldn’t have said those things about her. She brought this all on her own, when she went on televsion to talk crap on her daughter and Howard.
Keep fighting Howard…We believe in you!!!!
November 7th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Virgie, the same people you meet going up the ladder are the same going down…give it up please
Just be accountable for being a bad Mother. take responsibility for both deaths saying I could of done more to help them, but I didn’t, because of my anger and resentment and jealousy towards Anna.
Be accountable for introing Anna to booze and drugs and sex from one of your hubbies,and possible brothers. let alone the time you could not get along (family history of bad behavior with children)with Anna an sent her to live with your raped sister.
Including the gun that you had in your home, that went off and damaged another child, you had living with you, wasn’t he your son?
One more thing the lies you perpetuated against Howard and Larry from your team stupid with Rita (idontcheckmyfacts)Crosby., without taking into account that a small baby will be left to deal with this bad blood between you and because of you and your stubborn attitude to destroy anything that does not comply to your convoluted way of thinking.
Just say you are sorry,that you alone caused all this and much much, more, and maybe one day you will be forgiven untill then I would suggest you go back to the hole you thought you dug yourself out of. It is going to get bigger to allow you the room to crawl back in when this is finished. You will not win, trust me on this.
November 7th, 2007 at 11:33 am
How can someone defame Virgie mcnasty’s reputation that was shot years ago by her own actions? She was in everybody’s bed and doing all kinds of things with whomever she could. I can’t believe she would want all those ugly things to rear it’s head again. She knows damn well Anna wasn’t lying on her or that skanky family. They are all a bunch of whodunnits. I don’t think this will go anywhere, but if it does, much more is yet to come out on her. I believe they know they won’t win, but it’s a ploy to get at Howard and try to keep him tied up in legal wranglings. It’s disgusting!
November 7th, 2007 at 11:57 am
Doing the happy dance, is she ever going to learn to stay away from the big dogs? Time for her to go back to Montgomery and hang her head in shame.
This question pops up…………
Since O’Quinn has admitted to funding VA, and if she should try to file bankruptcy to keep from paying these legal fees for wrongful filing, would O’Quinn be responsible to pick up her tab? Giving the ole girl some credit for not having the common sense to swat a fly off her butt.
November 7th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Art,
You are the best!!! I love hearing this. Virgie has no problem throwing lawsuits on everyone esle so now she will know how it feels. She made herself public and loves every minute in front of cameras. Maybe a little “Karma” starting to set in here?????lol
November 7th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Very good day indeed. Thanks Art for the great news. Givinem, the boot! As we say in Texas.
November 7th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
No one can defame Virgie more than she has herself. I’m glad I found this website because for a while there I felt that I was the only person that believed Rita’s book was nothing more than a bunch of stories thought up by those who hated Howard. All I can say about Virige is that if she had been my mother I may have recorded my feelings for her the same way Anna Nicole did. I feel pleased that justice will be served in the end but it won’t be the end that Virgie hopes it will be.
November 7th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Oh My!! Poor Virgies public image damaged??? If Virgie
really wants an answer to this dilemma..stand in front
of a full length mirror,take a deep breath, open her eyes, take a long look… The image staring back should tell
her who did the tarnishing!!!
November 7th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Virgie was just trying to shake CBS, KPRC and Howard down for a little cash. Now it will cost her. Even her atty. said it does not pay to cross O’Quinn so maybe he can pay all the attys. Virgie became a public figure the first time she was paid to sit on Daniel’s grave.
November 7th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
I love this triple slap! Perry Mason eat your heart out!
Perhaps the “power lawyers” have met their Waterloo by choosing a client that cannot be elevated in the eyes of the public.
She, on the other hand, should have chosen represenatives who were above reproach to defend her. Bad Karma.
November 7th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Thanks for the updates, Art. What would we do without you.
November 7th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I think Virge has been lead down the crimrose path by her so called lawyers. What a sucker she seems to be.
November 7th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Art Harrris,
Ha ha ha that’s a good one again !!
Vergie always want to be a public figure anyway!!!!
Starting her Carree by trashing her daughter right after her son died, going in Florida court with her pencil, go to Rita Cosby party (that was her sum mum).Remember also when Splash sent her to Daniel graveyard!!!Well I truly hope her fame is finish!!!who know???
November 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Oh My!!! Virgies public image damaged!! Poor thing!!
If Virgie really wants an answer to her dilemma,,she
should stand in front of a full length mirror..step
back one step, take a deep breath, open wide her eyes
take a long look at the image staring back..might be
a shocker to see the guilty party!!!
November 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
EJ just wanted to say hi and hang in there it maybe does not get better right away but in time it will be less in the forefront God bless and take care of you and yours
November 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Virgie, I have read and thoroughly enjoyed the pleadings in response to your pain and suffering. How do you do it? How do you stay so strong when so many people hate you so deeply?
When I watched Anna say how much your mean words hurt her, I had a lump in my throat. Rumor has it you take a daily Vicious pill. Is that right?
I question the need for your recent makeover, since you have shamed yourself to such an extent, there is only one way out of this mess and it is to take a long walk off a short Texas pier. The sharks will keep you company. Just pretend it is your seventh plunge.
November 7th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
I usually refrain from bashing Virgie, but I thought this would be an excellent opportunity to recap what Virgie has done to hurt her own reputation and why so many people dislike her:
1) She went on national tv and accused Anna and Howard of being responsible for Daniel’s death. And then she even accused Howard, Anna’s best friend and companion, of murder without any evidence whatsoever.
2) She went against her daughter’s wishes and tried to have Anna buried in Texas instead of being buried next to her beloved son.
3) When asked at the Florida burial hearing whether she had received, or expected to receive, compensation resulting from Daniel’s or Anna’s death, she wouldn’t answer the question and said she didn’t understand what she was being asked. She then acted distraught so she wouldn’t have to answer.
4) She brought a representative from Splash News with her when she went to view Anna at the morgue. When questioned about it, she said they talked about food the whole time. So, you’re going to see your daughter’s body, and that makes you hungry?
5) She filed an appeal on the day of Anna’s funeral, which resulted in the hearse that carried Anna, having to sit on the side of the road for more than a half an hour. Then Virgie showed up late to the funeral because she was too busy filing her appeal.
6) She made a spectacle at the cemetery by shoveling more than 50 piles of dirt on Anna’s casket and then walking on her grave.
7) She went to Daniel’s grave, not only once, but TWICE with Splash News cameras for photo ops instead of grieving in private.
9) She never misses an opportunity to degrade her daughter and trash her memory by announcing to the whole world that Anna was “on drugs” or “messed up” or “wasted” even though she hardly had any contact with her daughter in over 10 years. Virgie even did an interview the day after Anna died saying how wasted Anna had been and how Anna made up a rags to riches story to make money.
10) She has admitted that she wants control of Dannielynn’s money even though the money is “tainted” according to her. She has more concern for the money than having a relationship with her grand-daughter.
11) She has openly supported Rita Cosby’s book of lies that trashes her daughter and even showed up at Cosby’s book signing party with a new makeover, smiling ear to ear.
12) She has complete disregard for the effect her words and actions will have on her grand-daughter in the future.
November 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
So, my #8 showed up as a smiley. How funny.
8) 
November 7th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Oh, that ‘road to perdition’ seemed ‘paved’ all the way…
What is that ‘saying’ about good intentions, and heaven…
Let me think.
November 7th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Thanks Art for staying on this story and giving me
a good laugh for today……..
That Virgie is a real piece of work,sure am sick of
her and her Texas pals…..
Maybe they do need to smoke some more of that Texan
weed and get over themselves…….
They are all a joke,they are in the wrong,they are
going to lose so let it go now……
Sooner is better than later before they look anymore
foolish than they already do…….
But I think people from that class don’t really care
how they appear to others…….
Sorry bunch of losers and the make over did not help
you Virgie……..
Hang in there Howard,you are quietly winning and with
great class………
November 7th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Sweet justice! A triple barrel full. Way to go. HKS, CBS & KPRC-Houston. Ah the sweetness of it all.
November 7th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
As long as team Texas thinks there is money they won’t go away.
The woman has no concious as she has proved time and time again. What kinda mother would go on tv after her grandson died and say the things she said about Anna, she was on Nancy Grace right after Daniel’s death talking trash about Anna what kinda mother would do that? she wanted attention and now she thinks she’s somebody????
I am totally disgusted by this woman the only reason anybody ever heard of her was because of Anna and now she is trying to gain her 15 minutes of fame by pretending she cares, all she cares about is dollar signs.
I think it speaks volumes that Daniel didn’t want anything to do with her either as he certainly didn’t try to see her after he turned of age, so obviously he didn’t have any warm childhood memories of his time spent with her or I am sure when things weren’t great at home she would of been the first person he went to, but that didn’t happen even after Anna moved to the Bahama’s he didn’t contact her and I think that says it all about his feelings for her there wasn’t any.
She has tried to paint a picture of this great relationship she had with him when he was younger but it is all garbage and by him not contacting her says it all.
She has some warped idea that she is somebody now.
…now we can understand why Anna was the way she was I think she did pretty well considering the nightmare of a childhood she had. No wonder Anna turned to Meds to numb her from the awful memories she must of had after being in the same house as that woman.
Between her and jackie H and Donna H all trying to be Anna now they must be stumbling over each other for camera time, too bad they don’t have enough brains between the 3 of them to figure out they don’t even come any where close to being what Anna was and never will.
Hopefully these lawsuits will put her in her place once and for all, but I kinda doubt it.
(trimmed for space and taste…tx Art)
November 7th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Another smoke screen for Howard K Stern? How much did ET pay Howard for that horrible tape. Print this Mr. Harris.
November 8th, 2007 at 12:00 am
Virgie is making herself to be the laughing stock of the country and beyond, lol. This woman just doesn’t know when to quit. She is showing everyone her greed and hatred. She doesn’t have a leg, or hoof, to stand on, lol.
KEEP GOING HOWARD! Bury her once and for all.
November 8th, 2007 at 12:47 am
It is a miracle that Virgie can try to make this claim with a straight face. Any reasonable person would ask themselves “how do you defame Virgie Arthur?” She is a gold digger and a drama queen to the highest degree, and I don’t think anyone could defame her anymore than her own actions.
November 8th, 2007 at 1:29 am
I suppose Grandma is at home tonight practicing her smirk for the inquest next week. That moment will be her last chance for glory, as this lawsuit against Howard, CBS and KPRC-TV will likly go nowhere. She destroyed her daughter, she continues to destroy her legacy and her grandaughter will know who and what she is as she grows up.
She owes it to her daughters soul to respect and care for those that loved her daughter, and those whom her daughter loved. This saga is really creepy, and embarrassing to us mothers who love their children. She drove her daughter off with that creepy smirk, memorialized forever on her last ET video while leaving the inqest coutroom.
November 8th, 2007 at 2:28 am
Virgie isn’t going to get anywhere with this lawsuit. She had to file it in order to dispute Mommie Dearest for custody issues.
She had no problem with media when she was blaming HKS/ANS for a role in DWS’s death; even though she hadn’t been part of their live in over a decade!
November 8th, 2007 at 3:55 am
Good job guys! I don’t think Ms. Virgie wan’t to go there.
Because this would mean that all her mother dearest! business would come to light!. Ms. Virgie know that Anna was expressing the pain that she went thew during her childhood. Now Ms. Virgie want other people to pay” her for the pain she caused (Anna) her own child, What Anna needed was a loving, caring, mother and I don’t believe that Ms. virgie was that kind of her mother. This is just my opinion!!
Ms. Virgie needs to find peace in her heart! and move on with her life, enough is enough lady……..
November 8th, 2007 at 6:04 am
Dear Art,
You ask in your heading here, “…How Can Anyone Defame Virgie,…”
http://www.bafound.org/support/potentional.php
Maybe, we shouldn’t, LOL.
And on top of her medical history, and all those children she took care of, and all those husbands, and being a cop, and being Anna Nicole Smith’s mom, instead of Vickie’s mom, and did she and her sister ’set’ her little girl up with a wealthy old man, and did her baby boy really accidentally shoot himself in the head because her purse fell off the bed…
Can you imagine living with so much guilt?
I can’t.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:56 am
I see that this case has been transferred to Federal Court.
I wondered why it wasn’t filed there in the first place. I take that back. I wonder why it was filed at all!
November 8th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Virgie,now wants her case against HOWARD,CBS,AND KPRC-TV brought to federal court,dear God this woman needs help,now it is Howard,s fault because her reputation,has been put in the dumps.every one in the world has watched Virgie,s actions,how can Howard be held accountable for Virgie going on NATIONAL TV AND CALLING HER DAUGHTER AND HOWARD A MURDERER.IT IS NOT HOWARD,S FAULT SHE,AND HER LAWYER,WENT AFTER CUSTODY OF DANNIELYNN,AND SAID THE FATHER LARRY COULD VISIT,IT IS NOT hOWARD FAULT,VIRGIE STOOD IN FRONT OF A PICTURE OF HER DAUGHTER,AT RITA,S BOOK SIGNING AND SAID SHE LOVED THE BOOK. THOSE IN GLASS HOUSES,VIRGIE,HOWARD,HAD HIS WHOLE LIFE TAKEN APART.VIRGIE THOUGHT SHE COULD HIDE HER ABUSE OF ANNA,VIRGIE,I AM SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT YOU NEED A MENTAL HEALTH EXAM YOU HAVE GONE WAY BEYOND THE NORMAL YOU HANDCUFFED YOUR DAUGHTER LONG BEFORE HOWARD CAME INTO THE PICTURE,YOU CAME TO VISIT DANNIEL,WITH SPLASH,INSTEAD OF COMMING ALONE AND HAVING A PRIVATE VISIT,YOU USED SPLASH TO VIEW YOUR DAUGHTERS BODY,I SAID THIS ONCE I WILL SAY IT AGAIN,THE MORE SHE DOES THE MORE SHE CAN GET ON TV,IN OTHER WORDS SHE WANTS HER UGLY FACE ON TV FOR MORE MONEY.
November 8th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
LOL, is right Art. I have always wondered, since virgie thinks shes a big celeb now, does she do her own grocery shopping anymore, can you imagine trying to pick out a melon and glancing up and seeing Virgie standing there trying to select what kind of pork rines to get, can you imagine the amount of people who look at her in disgust or call her names to her face? Obviously something like this has had to of happened.
She makes me sick beyond words, truth be told, JOQ owns Virgie, I wonder at this point does she really even have a say in all these no merit lawsuits, is OQ just trying to make back some of the 400k he has spent trying to brainwash the public by attempting to create this poor, wronged Grandma persona they are trying to sell that no one is buying?
November 8th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Is the FBI investigating its employee, the one spawned by Virgie?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Isabel, [#42 comment]
A excellent question!
Maybe people can ask the FBI?
ie. Is your government office in conflict with your employee; Virgie Arthur’s son _____________? Has this man abused his ethics by any actions in your office? Why did your employee go directly to John O’Quinn of Texas to represent his mother?? The office of the FBI also has prior employees; Don Clark…that keep saying; “Former FBI agent”
and then doing unethical things. Is this allowed by your office? (and so on)
November 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Cognitive skills Freida? She’s surely lacking in those.
Somewhere Virgie has thought she had the upper hand and in my opinion is a control freak. All those husbands didn’t cut the mustard they were gone, no matter the reason. Kids..just a afterthought. Anna said in a interview she wanted attention. Well that’s a duh..but why? Mom didn’t have time between courting the next man or sitting with a lawyer writing out divorce papers. There was no stability in that home. Who wouldn’t be craving attention and love? And have an issue with trust. So she hates Howard because Anna finally found someone she could trust and it wasn’t Virginia.
She has more than made her bed and I hope she has many unrestful nights to think about it all.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Ha Ha Art Harris,
Just put her picture face in the media,make peoples can’t forget how she is publicly ugly!!!
The last one was in Bahamas last week !!!!washhh like a snake!!! She ad her 15 min of fame with Rita!!!! any way!!!
If your outside face,face your inside look .. I prefer my dog!!
November 8th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
41# Your are so right O’Quinn owns Virgie. She has NO education and she is doing what this Sleaze attorney tells her to do. He has WAY to much money into her now, and needs to get some back. Even if she wanted to stop everything she can’t. She would have to pay back all the legal monies they have spent on this. So look for her to keep it going. O’Quinn knew he had a country bunkin and could ride her to the end.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
hmm Says:
November 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
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hmm, thank you.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
After watching Vergie, Rita, Opri, O’Quinn, etc., do and say all of the nasty things they did to Howard and Anna it really is gratifying to see each one of them get taken down peg by peg. Their evil antics certainly are not holding up in the light of real truth and justice. I’d love to see Greta and geraldo, (among other media “journalists”) get what they deserve as well,for their role in giving all of the Howard haters open platforms and gleefully cheering them on. Thanks for keeping us updated Art!
November 8th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
How can someone defame Virgie mcnasty’s reputation that was shot years ago by her own actions? She was in everybody’s bed and doing all kinds of things with whomever she could. I can’t believe she would want all those ugly things to rear it’s head again. She knows damn well Anna wasn’t lying on her or that skanky family. They are all a bunch of whodunnits. I don’t think this will go anywhere, but if it does, much more is yet to come out on her. I believe they know they won’t win, but it’s a ploy to get at Howard and try to keep him tied up in legal wranglings. It’s disgusting!”
Like mother, like daughter. Anna was in a lot of different beds also.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Thanks Art for staying on this story and giving me
a good laugh for today……..
That Virgie is a real piece of work,sure am sick of
her and her Texas pals…..
Maybe they do need to smoke some more of that Texan
weed and get over themselves…….
“They are all a joke,they are in the wrong,they are
going to lose so let it go now……
Sooner is better than later before they look anymore
foolish than they already do…….
But I think people from that class don’t really care
how they appear to others…….
Sorry bunch of losers and the make over did not help
you Virgie……..
Hang in there Howard,you are quietly winning and with
great class………” Marys post
Do you listen to CCR? Your comment reminds me of the song “Them boys from Oklahoma”, It talks about how they roll their joints all rong, then goes on to talk about Kansanian swag.
On the “fat” note, so many people diss Vergie because shes fat, I am by no means “for” her. I just get sick of the comments on her weight. I wonder just how many of you people who sit here and talk about her pork rinds are actually in shape your selves? I hope you all gain 30 pounds just for the weight comments. Oh and I admit I weigh 209.
LINDA: THANKS FOR BRINGING UP THE WEIGHT ATTACK. I WILL BE DELETING SUCH SLURGS AGAINST MRS. ARTHUR BECAUSE THEY ARE NEEDLESS AND CRUEL. HER ACTIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, NOT HER APPEARANCE…SAME GOES FOR MR. O’QUINN, WHO IS A TAKE NO PRISONERS LAWYER. LET’S LOOK AT THE LEGAL STRATEGIES AND DIRTY TRICKS, BUT LET’S STAY AWAY FROM HOW HE MAY HAVE COPED WITH PERSONAL INNER DEMONS IN THE PAST. THERE’S PLENTY ON THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT WITHOUT HAVING TO BE MEAN TO ANY ALLEGED BIG GREEN MEANIES. ART
November 8th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Isabel..Once again your 100% right!! Keep on keepin’ on!!
November 8th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
IMO federal courts are good they can’t be judge shopped as easily
November 8th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Regarding Greta:
Howard hope you will stay as far away as possible from Greta. She seems to have adopted a new strategy to get you on her show. She now acts like she is on your side. Do not be fooled. Remember the story of the frog and the scorpion.
They became friends and the frog promised to take the scorpion across the river. Halfway across the river, the scorpion stung the frog. “Why did you do that for?” the frog asked. “COuld not help it, it is my nature” the scorpion replied. See my point? See Greta’s nature? Besides, you do not need the approval of Greta and her followers. They will twist everything you say anyway.
English is not my first language, but I am trying.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Virgie has just about as much right to file suit as dumb butt Howard Stern for suing Rita Cosby.
(edited for accusations of a crime without charges and other vile-arious stuff. –art)
November 8th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Gidget- Smoke screen? How much was Howard paid for what tape?? You just have to throw in your jabs, however most of them never make sense. Boy will you feel stupid once all is said and done.
Howard, things are heading in the right direction. We are all behind you (except for that confused “Gidget”)….
My question is, was Anna switched at birth? It is so hard for me to believe that something so beautiful inside and out could come out of someone so ugly and hateful.
Virgie did all of this to herself.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Beverly
I agree with everything you said BUT the part about Virgie missing out on Anna and Baby’s love. I think Virgie actually hates both of them. She is a very bitter woman, and I think she enjoys trashing Anna, there is no hope for her.
Good post.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Since ET seemed like they took a liking to Anna and Howard and Mark Steines was staying in their home a lot filming, I bet there is a lot more to come out from ET tapes that wasn’t suitable for daytime audience. I was watching that day and I felt Anna’s pain, it’s a shame her mother didn’t feel it with me. I bet Anna said a lot more than we heard, and it won’t help VA look any better,,,just worse, if that’s possible.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Gidget, whatever they were paid, it was well worth it. ET got lucky that day, and there is no way I think Mark Steines didn’t feel her pain, also, and knew Anna was telling the truth. I’m glad she did that interview, it sure helped explain how she was the way she was. I had never watched the reality show and only knew Anna as a ditzy blonde with what I thought was an alcohol problem. It is a wonder that she lived as long as she did with the family she had.
November 8th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
houston chronical reads does this article yesterday,
get ready Y”all to holler real good… here it goes
CBS Studios produces the program, which is broadcast locally on KPRC, an NBC affiliate.
The statements have threatened Arthur’s ability to obtain custody and visitation rights for her granddaughter, Dannielynn, the suit alleges.
Arthur, who lives in Montgomery County, also accuses Stern, KPRC and CBS of exposing her to public humiliation by trampling her reputation as a “caring, honest and law-abiding retired peace officer.”
The case, originally filed last month in Harris County district court, was transferred this week to Houston federal court.
That sentence with the words “caring honest and lawabiding retired peace officer” can someone please explain all those words to her including the word Peace to her,,,, is the Dalai Lama in the house?
..very scary Art your site is the bomb!!!!
November 8th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Oviously Vergie Arthur is unaware of the fact her reputation was being trashed by the American people long before Anna gave that mommie dearest interview , if anyone should sue for slander it should be Howard !!!!!!!
November 8th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Pisces let’s not forget Virgie’s, sister-in-law Elaine Tabers, Anna Nicole’s aunt, came straight to “Extra” with the video will, in which J. Howard does not promise Anna Nicole half of his fortune. …, or Virgie’s correspondence
with Pleasant Valley State Prison resident Mark Hatten, after Daniel’s death!!
November 8th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Hi Art, thanks for the update I totally agree with all the above comments. The “Bitches of Birkwick” {ARTHUR,COSBY & “DOPEY”} are only out for money…money which I hope they never get…INSTEAD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THREE HAVING TO PAY FOR THEIR DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:29 am
casey Says:
November 7th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
No one can defame Virgie more than she has herself. I’m glad I found this website because for a while there I felt that I was the only person…
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You echo the sentiment of many bloggers on this site.
Occasionally, however, some clown pops in on this site with paranoid, infantile comments against Howard. When that happens, I picture a rabid tiger swatting away uncontrolably.
These lawsuits exploding out of Texas makes one wonder what the attorneys involved have instead of brains. Do these clowns enjoy being laughed at? Do they not have enough work to keep themselves busy, that they feel compelled to resort to frivolous lawsuits?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:41 am
Before Anna gave the mommie dearest talk, Virgie had gone on CBS, NBC, ABC and the Dr.Ablow show to tell the world Anna and Howard had something to do with Daniels death. And SHE had TV cameras at the funeral SHE had in Texas for Daniel for the world to see. And SHE went with Splash Mag. to sit on Daniels grave for a phop op. SHE put herself in the public eye WAY before Anna said a word about her mommie dearest. Howard has not said a word about Virgie until he was on Larry King last month, and then he didn’t say anything that was bad about her. But she has been everywhere bashing Howard. Yep, she needs to be sued by Howard. Even if she has nothing to take. Let her fight for years in court, as she is trying to do with Howard.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:32 am
“Arthur’s ability to obtain custody and visitation rights for her granddaughter, Dannielynn,….”
Arthur never had any chance of obtaining Dannielynn’s custody, and she needs to understand it. In the Bahamas she may have had a slight chance but not here. O’Quinn has so cleverly brainwashed her, it is probably high time he came clear with her.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:38 am
#58 flowerz
Do you honestly think Anna Nicole is the only one in the world who has suffered from a traumatic childhood? Get real, this was and still is all about MONEY, and it ain’t coming from Texas. The things that I say on this sight doesn’t make sense to any of you, because for some sad reason you think it is alright to attack the innocent and protect the guilty. Don’t bother to answer me or what I say, because it wouldn’t make sense to me anyway because all you people know how to do is attack. Obviously there is something very personal in it for all of you.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:49 am
I am famous for long winded responses, but you know, when you are dealing with ‘team stupid’, hell stupid is what stupid does! Vergie I am sure we would all love you if we had not seen what your own daughter said about you! OOOOOOO, that has to sting! even from her grave! And sweetie just accept what she said, and leave poor Howard alone! Hell he did not even know you existed till you popped up! LOL! And you know what Verg! The more you put yourself out there you are becoming a public icon….LOL And it will limit yourself as to what you can take legal action against!
Shit, I cannot beleive I am about to say what I am about to say! Sweetie, just drink the Kool Aid and go away!
Part of being a man is to know when you are on the ropes just admit it. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY IS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACTS! Anna said it and that is it! End of story, No Mas!
Done, again all my best and wish you the best in any future endeavors!
John J. Nazarian, Private Investigator / Security Consultant
November 9th, 2007 at 4:29 am
Had Anna not gone on air with the Mommie Dearest tirade, for which she now can never be cross-examined on the allegations she made, I believe Virgie would have been viewed more sympathetically as a grieving mother. As Anna’s mother, she had as much right to bury Anna where she wanted just as Anna exercised her right to bury Daniel in the Bahamas, a place he is said to have disliked.
Most families have problems they wouldn’t want aired in public. Anna chose to air her family issues on a national tv program and that program was more than happy to exploit a grieving mother at the expense of her son’s grieving grandmother and extended family. It was SICK!!!
Art, do you truly believe that EVERYONE in Anna’s family, except her children, is so bad that not one of them was allowed in Anna’s life?!!! I’m sorry, I just don’t buy it.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:52 am
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20001001/ai_n14520596
Oct 1, 2000; Billy and the billionaire’s bride
It’s kinda a good read, Mr. Smith and Anna had a troubled marriage, it also contradicts Anna’s pregnancy!(Anna said she flushed PILLS, to GET pregnant)After reading this article is Mr. Smith bitter or not! He says he had NO money to fight for Daniel,(Virgie IMO has no money to fight either, what stopped him!)I’m sorry to say but if he WANTED to have a part in his son’s life, same as Mrs. Arthur she could have had a part in her grandson’s life.
COMMUNICATION!(and if the talks broke down, KEEP TRYING,
and than court!)My hubby has a daughter from a previous,
hasn’t seen her past 7yrs old, she is now 18yrs. The MOM
has roadblocked visits, communications, yet we pay monthly,and EVERY holiday a present is sent. Fair! NO! Did Mr. Smith or Mrs. Arthur EVER fight for Daniel, inquire of his welfare, send holiday presents??? When Anna laid Daniel to rest as the person who had sole custody, of a child whose parents are separated, in which one person has sole responsibility.She made the decision! JMO
November 9th, 2007 at 6:11 am
Thanks Art for staying with all things Anna.
A special thanks for your site. I really wonder where those of us interested in facts about ALL things Anna would be without you.
A special thanks for the legal documents, because before your started providing them we had NO place to go to follow the actual legal issues as they move through the court…
The mass media that have tried so hard to destroy Howard, Larry, the memory of Anna and Daniel, with no regard for the truth or how all their ungodly actions will affect Dannielynn should examine their own morals and ethics and take lessons from you and your site.
It is a fact you are hated by those that support Virgie, Opri, Cosby and those involved that seek to destroy others with ruthless gossip.
It is also a fact their bloggers hate legal documents…and even have people that refer to themselves as legal eagles lying to the people about past court decisions…
I would like to invite those legal eagles and all their other expert bloggers that have been spreading their lies all over the internet since Daniel and Anna past… to come over to Rose Speaks and lets respectfuly see who has their FACTS right!
The invite also includes, Greta, Nancy Grace, Rivera, etc. etc.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:16 am
Art. I may be talking out of turn here, but if Daniel’s burial place is ever questioned, Howard (as much as I hate the thought)should take them both to California, in many witneses words that was the next best to the Bahamas, never,never TEXAS!! NEVER! That my view!
November 9th, 2007 at 6:43 am
Art, I agree the chubby comments have to go, Anna’s mother may be more heavy set than some, but some must realize Anna had a weight issue too! And I’m sure Anna would be hurt by some of the comments flying around, even directed at those she tried to love! IMO
November 9th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Well,poor Virgie is upset,she will not enjoy,her reputation,back in home town anymore,(ALL ABOUT VIRGIE.)she did not care,how a new daddy felt putting a PI IN CASE HE MADE ONE WRONG MOVE,she did not care about the way Howard or Larry felt reading that filthy book,you got what was goming to you Virgie,i hope you are in for a lot more misery,that only would be a small payment for the harm you have done to others.
November 9th, 2007 at 9:58 am
Virgie is a piece of work. There is no shame in her game. She is a money hungry cow that is going to be let out to pasture very soon by the very one (O’Quinn) she has such great confidence in. He will turn her out after he sees that he’s going to suffer more losses than wins. They really want to depose Howard hoping they will be able to find out certain things about Anna’s business. I hope they know that somethings are off the table if not applicable. Regardless, they are going to lose.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Gidget#69.. Please take a deep breath, relax; then
re-read your post!!
November 9th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
#71
Teri Says:
November 9th, 2007 at 4:29 am
Had Anna not gone on air with the Mommie Dearest tirade, for which she now can never be cross-examined on the allegations she made, I believe Virgie would have been viewed more sympathetically as a grieving mother. HAD VIRGIE NOT GONE ON NATIONAL TV AND ACCUSED ANNA & HOWARD OF HARMING DANIEL THEN ANNA WOULDN’T HAVE HAD TO COME OUT SWINGING. IF VIRGIE WANTED HER DIRTY LAUNDRY TO STAY PRIVATE THEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WISH FOR YOURSELF. As Anna’s mother, she had as much right to bury Anna where she wanted just as Anna exercised her right to bury Daniel in the Bahamas, a place he is said to have disliked. NO, VIRGIE WAS NOT AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN ANNA’S LIFE FOR OVER A DECADE – KINDA NULLIFIES THE “RIGHT”.
Most families have problems they wouldn’t want aired in public. Anna chose to air her family issues on a national tv program and that program was more than happy to exploit a grieving mother at the expense of her son’s grieving grandmother and extended family. It was SICK!!! NO WHAT WAS SICK WAS THE HARM THAT WAS DONE TO ANNA AS A CHILD. HER SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING OF VIRGIE’S DOWNFALL. HARM A CHILD, YOU DESERVE TO FALL.
Art, do you truly believe that EVERYONE in Anna’s family, except her children, is so bad that not one of them was allowed in Anna’s life?!!! I’m sorry, I just don’t buy it. HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED AN EPISODE OF ANNA’S SHOW??? EVERY FAMILY MEMBER ON THAT SHOW HAD A HAND OUT LOOKING FOR DONATIONS. COUSIN SHELLY AND HER NEW TEETH?!?! A PERSON IS MORE THAN WHAT THEY CAN OFFER YOU MONETARILY. I’D RATHER HAVE SOMEONE’S UNCONDITIONAL LOVE (ESPECIALLY MY CHILDREN) THAN THEIR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. MAYBE THAT’S JUST ME. MAYBE I’M THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE BUT I THOUGHT AS PARENTS THAT IT WAS TO LOVE OUR CHILDREN UNCONDITIONALLY, NOT BASED ON THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Art thanks again for the latest scoop on Virgie!
Again Virgie has shown her true colors. She has proven to the world that she is a disgrace to womanhood, motherhood and grand motherhood.
O’Quinn must have a hidden agenda here. Because a man who graduated Magna Cum Laude from law school and was State Moot Court Champion could not be this stupid. Why would he let this woman do the outrageous things she has and still is doing? In August at the FL deposition he said “he was doing this because Virgie’s FBI son asked him for a favor.” She had racked up over $400,000 before the big make over. How much does he owe the Houston FBI? On the Nancy Grace Show way back when he said “he was doing this because she was a grandma and he was raised by his grandma.” Is the Marshall money worth throwing a billion dollar law practice down the tubes? Who would want him as an attorney after seeing the bugling mess the Virgie case has been, they have lost in every court so far? What people well do for money amazes me. Sure hope it’s worth it Big John! Because you look like a big buffoon right now, you and your client.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
Dear EJ,
Good to read you here. Hope you are OK.
Conviction is something I really admire.
Bet Virgie was beautiful when she was young, maybe even as pretty as Vickie.
I really do hope you are OK.
Not sure if ‘the comments’ I’ve read here is ‘The Truth.’ Did your husband really pass away?
May I offer my condolences?
Love Always,
Freida
November 9th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Art Harris,
After reading an article regarding O’Q, I wander if it is just for money he is helping Vergie and backing her? For sure if she didn’t had O’Q we never heard about her so much.
This lawyer have a big EGO and Principe to protect.
I am saying this point cause remember at the beginning of Florida circus he ad an interviews with Greta saying he was raised by his grand mother ….
IMO O’Q is more trying to protect a picture of the America’s grand mother and all the Principe who goes with it.Like the picture of loving grand mother,her rights and her love(he had with his own grand mother).Badly he chose Vergie Arthur. He is trying to save an image who not exist in her case.
America is changing even if he doesn’t want admit it! We still have the majority of GM who’s love there grand children that’s for sure. But in an other way we have now the men who are more involve in raising there child and they make a good job like Larry and Howard are doing now regarding Dannielynn. We have to admit the new fact in America is good for us to see men raising child with love and care.
For an old skin like O’Q maybe it is something impossible to admit in his old fashion head???
November 9th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Virgie needs to grow up. Does she really think she deserves anything? Her, O’Quinn, Opri and Rita will get what they deserve……
November 9th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Since VA has filed defamation charges that HKS conspired with ANS to defame VA does this mean that VA’s next move will be to file a conspiracy charge against ANS via her estate? Can she file a charge against ANS via ANS’s estate?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Hello Frieda,
Thanks for asking about my husband. Yes, he did pass away.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Freida: I will answer your question. Yes, sadly, EJ’s husband passed away. I don’t know which “comments” you are refering to, but the things I told everyone came straight from EJ.
I can’t beleive you would think I’d make that up. It seems like you are the only one that did. I tell the truth, and if I’m not willing to have the truth out there, about anything, then I don’t say anything at all.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
Flowerz: You said you felt Anna’s pain when you watched her video and said it’s a shame Virgie didn’t also feel the pain.
Vigie is not capable of feeling pain. She has nothing but a huge, cold, hard rock sticking in her chest cavity. She can’t feel anything like pain or love. She keeps showing us all that, all the time. Over and over.
I really believe she did hate Anna and was also jealous of her fame and fortune. It was so very obvious during that hearing in Florida and at Anna’s funeral. I think it’s safe to say also, that Virgie was no doubt jealous of Anna’s beauty. I also believe that if it hadn’t been for Howard, Anna would have met her demise much, much sooner. Virgie, you should be thanking God for Howard having been in your daughter’s life.
You know, I keep remembering hearing that when Daniel died, Anna called her mother to tell her and her mother wouldn’t pick up the phone and talk to her. She left the answering machine get it instead. I also heard Virgie sold that taped message. If this is what really happened, I just can’t even fathom a mother doing something like that or anyone for that matter. I can’t even tell you how it makes me feel when I think of someone doing that. People like that don’t deserve to have kids. They don’t even deserve the life God gave them.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Hi Art
I noticed you editied the last part of my comment and agree that there is no need for nasty name calling, so I am sorry but sometimes I just get carried away with my comments and virgie makes it hard not to be nasty with her constantly causing grief for everyone that she thinks she might be able to get money from, and the way she acted when Anna passed away. But I will try to be a good girl from now on. Thanks for keeping us all in check a little kick in the butt is good when I get too carried away. Usually I have my Husband to keep me politically correct and now Art Harris too!
T: Love your passion…don’t want to ever trim that. Art
November 9th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Oh give me a break, boo hoo to the comment about Vergies weight, god forbid anyone call her names, I have no respect for that woman who went on TV and called Anna a drug addict and a mumbling drunk, and accusing people she didn’t even know of murder, and not to mention her antics of contacting that dangerous felon Mark Hatten in prison looking for info on what Anna told him about her, what was she going to try to do, sue Anna for slandering her to a psycho ex boyfriend, that woman dosen’t deserve one ounce of sympathy,never, not from me ever.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Number 71, please, Anna chose to air the publci laundry aobut her family, are you kidding? If anything Anna had been gracious to Virgie until Daniel died and Virgie went on TV and called her a drunk, Howard a murderer, Anna refused to talk about Virgie in court during the Marshall ordeal, at least she had that amount of respect for that woman, Virgie threw the first stone, she opened up the can of worms, it was Virgie on GMA the DAY after Anna died, already tarnishing her memory, saying, oh I don’t know why Anna told everyone she was from a small town, that was untrue, the truth is Anna was sent away at 15 because Virgie didn’t want to deal with her, remember, She was hanging with a bad crowd? Gee, I wonder what Virgie did to her other son who with a few of his friends kidnapped a paraplegic woman, talk about hanging with a bad crowd, do you think she sent him away, probably not since the state took care of that for her.
Virgie deserves everything she gets, and I really wish Howard would sue Virgie, but I can’t say I don’t blame him if he dosen’t I wouldn’t want any prolonged contact with that vile woman.
November 9th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
#72 — Kate — Sounds like your hubby didn’t have much better luck than Billy Smith did. I think you know better then most when the mom says “Get lost”, unless you have unlimited money, you’re pretty well sunk. My hubby had an ex-wife like that. All she wanted was that child support check. She had remarried and moved to the other end of the state. Except for the money, in her eyes their kids had a new dad (and the man was a lawyer). Nobody said Life was fair.
Regarding “sole custody”, custody ends at 18. Daniel was an adult. Your stepdaughter is free to see your husband any time she wants unless she doesn’t want to tick off her mom.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Well,DivaE,
I agree with you on most of your comment’s.Anna had the respect not saying much on her mother.
After Daniel past, it was to much.If my mother ad made some comment on my kid like Vergie did for Daniel, you can be sure, drug or not,I ad lost all the respect on my mother (sorry kid first).
I try to find the link with Marshall case cause Anna made a comment on her mother one time during the trail(maybe I made a dream but I am pretty sure).
For your comment on the weight,anaything regarding Vergie can be say IMO. She start the game,and she continue !!!
Some ppls.are big so what??? You are not less beauty cause you weight is bigger than TWITTY!!
The best example is Anna herself!!
I see persons with weight and they are beauty, generous,attractive persons!!
Badly again,Vergie is not a good example representing wieght peoples.She carry with her a really bad feeling and it is the most horrible in her case !!!!WOUACH!!!!
November 10th, 2007 at 1:58 am
Has anyone else noticed VA demeanor in the video interview with her an McCabe at
Bald Truth Exclusive: Inside Daniel’s Inquest!? When the reporter asked her how she felt about being back in the Bahamas she laid her head over on McCabe and then he answered the question for her. Her demeanor towards her attorney McCabe in this interview just seemed too familiar (too personal) for attorney client to me. To me VA always seems a little too familiar with the men that are working for her. Would anyone else care to review that video again and give me their take on it?
November 10th, 2007 at 2:41 am
I have a tendency to watch people’s body language as well as what they say.
At book party and this trip to Bahamas she seems to have no problem walking.
Does anyone get these impressions of VA?
1) In the video under Bald Truth Exclusive: Inside Daniel’s Inquest!
She looks like she’s holding on to McCabe like she thinks he’s going to get away from her. She lays her head over on McCabe and then he answered a question for her.
2) Whenever she has been with O’Quinn she hangs on to him and to his every word.
3) When she was leaving the book party The security guy was practically dragging her to the stretch SUV.
4)She looked to me like she wanted to stroll to the SUV and speak to reporters along the way but the security guy was having none of it.
5) O’Quinn was walking behind her and they both got in the same stretch SUV
6) VA husband has been missing since Bahamas in May.
7) In FL and first trips to Bahamas courts she looked like she could hardly walk and had to be helped along.
9) She seems to enjoy the attention she gets from O’Quinn, McCabe and even the security guy at the book party.
10) She always seems just a little too familiar in her interactions with both O’Quinn and McCabe for someone that‘s in an attorney/client relationship.
11) She reminds me of a teenager gushing over a guy she has a crush on.
12)The full extent of her new makeover doesn’t seem to have followed her to the Bahamas.
13) Mr. Arthur has been missing since they were in the Bahamas in May.
I’m not accusing her of anything her behavior just seems odd to me. It’s almost like she’s enjoying the attention that she’s getting from these men. Would anyone else care give me their take on this?
November 10th, 2007 at 2:59 am
Gidget, what is the going rate for a session on brain washing? Is the course taught by the O’Quinn group? Or is it taught by the Hatten clan?
Belle, ditto.
November 10th, 2007 at 4:14 am
Be still my heart and be thankful for small favors!
First of all, WTG, KPRC- Channel 2, one of the best and classiest stations in Town!
Secondly, to all who posted online at Chron.com, I feel the world is saner than the one represented at other blogs apparantly controlled by “certain” interests.According to their spin, most of the world supports,–You know who!–.
I certainly wished that —you know who- and her lawyer would stop being annoying public persons and giving Houston a bad name.
The wonderful comment paid her by columnist Isaiah should be of no surprise to those who live in OQ-Town. Thankfully there are a few journalists , like Art who have not bowed down to the mainstream or Johnny boy! ( Whoosh!)
To Nazarian– class act and funny at that!
To Howard, hang in there, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Just stay quiet and let them proverbially “hang” themselves!
Thanks for the article:)
November 10th, 2007 at 6:52 am
I think Virgie does not care who she hurts,what she does,as long as she gets money,all these law suits,bring her,in tv interviews,and US, OK. PEOPLE.AND SPLASH,THE MONEY IS HER ONLY THOUGHT.She will never give up all this crap as long as there is a tv reporter,willing to put her in the news.(TRYING TO BE ANNA)
November 10th, 2007 at 10:03 am
Joni#87–Excellant!! Virgie showed her true charater
in the Fla.court. The most pathetic part–taking a
splash reporter with her to the viewing of Anna!! We
wouldn’t have been able to stop crying..what was
Virgie doing( her own words) “discussing cooking”!!!
November 10th, 2007 at 11:01 am
This is a little off topic to the subject.. BUT. I just read that Sorrel Trope is sueing the ANS estate for $160,000.00 for DNA work in regards to DL. WHAT!! This is the FATHER to Larry’s attorney (Michael Trope). Sheesh. Like these attorneys do not have enough money!! Don’t they feel bad about taking a child’s money?? hmm, guess not. I hope that Larry DOES NOT have any money he and DL has earned in a trust fund for DL if it the trust fune is not untouchable by lawyers. I hope Larry has enough money to raise is daughter and is not depending on the Marshall money for the future. I get sick of hearing about the “Marshall Money”. What a seemingly inescapable emotional & financial burden this has turned out to be for Larry and DL. I hope he and DL has plenty put back for their future. Larry was very smart is taking photo opportunities while he could. AT least the lawyers cannot touch it. I hope…..
November 10th, 2007 at 11:07 am
My post # 92 correction to a mis-worded sentence. Sorry ladies.. and men.
” I hope that Larry DOES NOT have any money he and DL has earned, in a trust fund for DL…unless the money is untouchable by attorneys.
I hope this makes more sense.
November 10th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Dear Art,
Sometimes I’m not tactful or diplomatic.
My heart goes out to EJ, yet I know she has strength in her faith that her husband is in a better place…at peace and without pain…and I am sad, knowing she and his family are missing him…and remembering him, I hope that will in the future give them much happiness.
And that Joni, she sure is ‘True Blue,’ isn’t she?
Seems you have many ‘Faithful Fans/Friends,’ I’m one…and, my husband also, tries to keep me politically correct, LOL.
Is Virgie real? Sometimes I think ‘this stuff’ is all ‘made up’ by Hollywood for entertainment and tabloids…
November 10th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
I truly believe that Virgie was transported some time ago to the Dreamland. Once she wakes up, she will be truly ashamed. She will look at all her silly lawsuits and will turn beet red. When she looks up at O’Quinn, she will not believe her eyes but will run and hide in fear of what she has gotten herself into. Those who have been blindly siding with her will dissolve in shame. It will look like a trail of melted marshmallows.
How about boycotting Texas?
November 10th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Did Anna even have sole custody(legally)? In the article that Kate mentions(72) Billy says Anna just left one day and took Daniel with her. Did she ever go to court? If so Billy would have had a chance to speak then.
In all the years he made no effort, no money that is a crock of Texas BS. He could have gotten a second or a third job to fight to see his child, to be a part of his childs life.That is if it really meant anything to him.
He could have found an Attorney asked that Anna pay legal fees(hell didnt Larry say that once?).
Makes you wonder if Anna paid him monthly to stay away. If thats the case he is scum. Money means more than your child.
IMO he has no right to anything concerning Daniel NOTHING Money,belongings or even his body.
Virgie IMO has no right either.
Enough said
November 10th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Here’s a little article I found on http://www.rosespeaks.com, proves Anna had problems with Mommy Dearest BEFORE Howard….
http://www.smoe.org/braces/articles/br31.txt
EJ, I’m so sorry about your loss. : (
Art, keep up the good work bringing us the goodies! Much love!
November 10th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Yes, I watched that episode of the show and also the clip on You-tube. I actually felt sorry for Shelley, as she did not seem to realize she was being exploited and put up for public ridicule by agreeing to appear on Anna’s show. Shelley obviously has had a truly hard life and made some poor choices. She is also clearly uneducated and poor. However, it was very evident that there was a connection between the two women that one only finds with family.
There are very few families who don’t have one or two members who are troubled. I can’t imagine putting a member of my family up to public ridicule as Anna did with Shelley.
I’m not saying that Anna’s family is perfect. However, I doubt that Shelley represents EVERYONE in Anna’s family. Shelley was the only extended family member I saw on the show. I’m sure if there were other family members making fools of themselves on the show, it would also be on You-tube.
PS It is my understanding that Billy is of very modest means, and, considering Anna’s educational level, probably under-educated. This was a David and Goliath situation and I believe Anna would have done everything in her power to keep full custody as she wanted to be in full control of Daniel.
November 10th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Nolongerbewildered: You said in your opinion, Virgie is a control freak.
She is, without a doubt. Big time.
November 10th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
So Gidget, do you honestly think, you are the only one who is right, and that we are all wrong? LMAO
Sort of like the world is wrong and you are right. Is that it?
November 10th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
I am ashamed of adults that write things like this above. These writings sounds like whe
November 11th, 2007 at 3:29 am
Google is your friend or can really make me even more bewildered
Is it true that Virgie got her job as a deputy sherrif from working in a donut shop where they recommended she apply?
Is Virgies new team of lawyers being paid for by Splash News and media outlets?
Did Virgie really write Hatten and ask if he knew why Anna didn’t love her?
Did Hatten really have a bit part in low budget movie so he also has the resume of an actor?
So many ?’s..so little time.
November 11th, 2007 at 5:12 am
Sarah from KY……. I also noticed Virgie’s actions with McCabe. Also at Rita’s party John O’Quinn placed his hand on her shoulder and she then placed her hand on his – just seemed a bit odd to me. Virgie has been running with the big boys for a while now and I imagine she is enjoying every minute of the attention from those men. I can’t help but wonder what’s going on with her present (#5)husband. She’s been solo for a while now.
November 11th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
EJ, my condolencs to you and your family. I am late sending these; I lost my son September 21, 2007 after his being on life support for two weeks. You and I know your husband and my son are in a better place but that does not stop the hurt we have in our hearts. We will always have that hurt and will always miss them. I could not go on without the strength the Lord gives me each day. My son died with multi myeloma bone marrow cancer. Everyone, please get a yearly check-up..this cancer is deadly and no symptoms until the bones are destroyed.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
To Sarah from KY,
In reply to your posts…my take on VA’s body language does agree with yours to the extent of; her acting like all of this is ‘too much’ for her. She seems to ‘play’ helpless when it is convienent for her/in front of the cameras…
I do believe that VA’s current husband did not know “all details” of this woman’s life before it started to be told in public. Don’t know if VA & husband are together now, bet they are whether they want to be or not! [AS SHE IS STILL TRYING TO GET 'SOME' OF THAT BABY...] They would keep up APPEARANCES ; as a ’stable unit’ for the Courts.
I do not think O’Quinn, McCabe would truly fall for VA’s acts…they ‘appease’ her for one reason & one reason only! I think they will never get a cent!! O’Quinn is ‘gambling’ for the Marshal estate, and using all the money he is spending on Virgie as a ‘write-off’ for a loss in his taxes. This is what I think anyway…I do like reading your postings, Sarah; as they make me really think!
November 11th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
#106 Joni,
Gee, I thought you would never get it but finally you did. What took you so long. I thought I made myself pretty clear the few times I have posted on here. What is amazing to me is, that is what you and the others think, that you are right and everyone else is wrong. To tear down a human being consistently because she is trying to find out what happened to two of her family members, “the real truth”, its called blaming the victims and I can assure you Virgie is the victim here on this sight anyway.
November 11th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Trish Says:
November 10th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Here’s a little article….
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Thanks for the article.
November 11th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
My thoughts are that we don’t know if Billy tried to see Daniel during the years that his grandmother supposedly took care of him, and how many times he he may have been refused? Could be that the opposing forces were just too formidable? Only he knows that.
I am not wondering whether or not Mr. Arthur has been dumped by Vergie, nor what their situation may be. I do think that apparently his reasons for not being more visible is….he just does not choose to be in the public eye (other than supporting his wife in Florida). Until he steps out into the limelight, maybe he just needs to have his privacy respected?
(I am not a fan of O’Quinn, McCabe or Vergie.)
November 11th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
SOME OF YOU BLOGGERS ARE TERRIBLY WINDY AND SAY IN 2000 WORDS WHICH COULD BE WELL SAID IN 200. REALLY TURNS A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF WHO DON’T HAVE TIME TO WADE THRU A LOT OF HYPERBOLE.
KEEP IT SHORT, KEEP IT PITHY, AND KEEP IT RELEVANT.
November 11th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Freida: What a very nice post #100. I for one thank you. It warmed my very soul.
November 11th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Mish: You raised some good questions about Billy and Daniel.
I know one thing, and this goes for Virgie too. If it was me and my child, I would go to the ends of the earth for them. Nothing would stand in my way. I would go through hell or high water to get to them and to protect them. I’m like a mamma bear when it comes to my kids,lol.
And while I’m at it, I could NEVER do or say any of the things Virgie has done or said about Anna. A mother is supposed to love their children and protect them.
November 11th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
by me#107–Please stop reading our posts if your ashamed
of what we write!! Switch to something else–this site
is not mandatory!!
November 12th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
EJ Says:
November 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Hello Frieda,
Thanks for asking about my husband. Yes, he did pass away.
I don’t know you but sorry to here about your loss. I see you post here at Art’s.
November 12th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
John J. Nazarian Says:
November 9th, 2007 at 3:49 am
I am famous for long winded responses, but you know, when you are dealing with ‘team stupid’, hell stupid is what stupid does! Vergie I am sure we would all love you if we had not seen what your own daughter said about you! OOOOOOO, that has to sting! even from her grave! And sweetie just accept what she said, and leave poor Howard alone! Hell he did not even know you existed till you popped up! LOL! And you know what Verg! The more you put yourself out there you are becoming a public icon….LOL And it will limit yourself as to what you can take legal action against!
Shit, I cannot beleive I am about to say what I am about to say! Sweetie, just drink the Kool Aid and go away!
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Drink the kool aid and go away?? You could have used a different analogy (sp?) Vergie Arthur is what she is, no doubt. I just wonder, for all of you on here, who claim to dislike her so much, yet you spend so much time giving her the “fame” you all claim she wants. Its early morning, im sure I am not typing up to par. Please excuse me on that flaw. I just think that saying horrible things like this, is, in an essence, acting just like Vergie. So, keep talking, you all are making her FAMOUS! You dont llike her, most dont, so ignore her and dont give her any attention, and she might go away, but the kool aid joke was insensitive , I remember the story , and to this day it saddens me. To have a grown man get on a blog and spout such ignorant filth like that, is pathetic.
November 12th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Linda,
Get over yourself. First, the crap that’s been said about Howard for months is pale compared to poor Virgie. This is not making her famous, she sued Howard and states she is hated in public.
Virgie brought this on herself, she will not go away until she is slapped down at every turn like she has thus far, hated or not.
November 12th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Yeah, telling Virgie to drink the Kool Aid is not very nice. It is so unhealthy because it’s loaded with sugar and artificial dyes. Personally, I never cared for Kool Aid. Too bland.
November 12th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Gidget,Linda IMO people don’t like what vergie has done all around not her personally.Gidget you worry about this blog but what about others that are really vile about LB and HKS.I don’t see you taking a stand against them and the deep pockets that pay them.They are much much worse than anyone I have read on this blog.Art tends to keep it fair.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:39 am
Oh, my, in defense of Mr. Nazarian, here I go:
1. Mr. Nazaria’s information is fun to read. I am guessing it is because he is not trying to impress his boss while trying to climb the ladder and gathering feathers for his cap.
2. Virgie Arthur begged for attention and makes it very easy for those who would like to see her disappear, wish she would zip her mouth and keep away from filing more stupid lawsuits.
3. Virgie Arthur’s flirtatious behavior toward O’Quinn and certain other male species make her an easy target to belittle.
4. I remember Jim Jones and the Kool Aid. Those people who succumbed to Jones’ brainwashings had it coming. Those who follow the crowd instead of using their own thinking caps are asking for trouble.
5. Although I will never be mother of the year, I would never, ever tell strangers, much less go on national television to inform the world that a child of mine is a murderer. That was right after her “beloved” grandson died. Virgie was not mourning nor was she sad or teary and her grandson had just expired.
6. Virgie Arthur times it perfectly. Just as soon as she becomes a distant memory, she pops up again with another brainless comment such as how she “loved” a book that thrashed her daughter. We will not see or hear from her again until she has another stupid comment and she is assured the cameras will be flashing.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:52 am
Gidget, if you are related to Virgie, I pity you. She is not a victim. She victimizes those who have common sense and had proper upbringing to know when to keep their mouth shut and behave in public.
Maybe Virgie had a horrible upbringing herself, but her vile behavior toward others will not ingratiate her to anyone.
If you feel sorry for Virgie, I can only imagine you are the same type of person she is. Like a vicious rabid animal, she spreads fear and repulsion.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:55 am
Dream on Gidget. LOL
November 13th, 2007 at 1:01 am
Linda, those who do not act like Virgie, such as Howard who keeps quiet, is rewarded with more attacks, daggers and torpedoes coming from every direction by Virgie and her goons.
People who come from certain background, commonly known as — trash only understand behavior similar to theirs. Anything else short of viciousness is viewed as weakness. A person who is rude and crude like Chavez is her type.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:19 am
i think va should go after hks, he was the one with all the pills in his name and i truley believe he was the one feeding them to anna so go virgie, as they say in texas nothing is over until it’s over and mr. o’quin is not a stupid man there is something going on here that none of us know about and i’m sure it will all be reveled in a court room with hks on the loseing end
November 13th, 2007 at 9:48 am
#117, Linda or whoever you are, you can rest assure yourself that Virgie is not famous in my mind. She is a wannabe and a never will be as far as I’m concerned. She will have to live with the truth about her past with her daughter. Why didn’t she sue Anna for saying those things before she died? Do you think it’s because she loved her too much? NO. Do you think it’s because she was afraid what other dirt Anna would bring out on her? YES. I think she knew Anna would take her ass to the cleaners if she had even attempted to mess with her or hers. Now, mommy dearest can’t rest in peace. Hell, Anna can’t rest in peace either until the vultures let go of Howard. Virgie should have kept her sh*t to herself and moved on. No, she was too damn greedy. Now she can live with the consequences without ANY sympathy from me.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:08 am
Joni
We think alike. I have been saying it form the begining. IF all Virgie claims is/was true WHY didnt she do anything about it? Daniel was a minor and with her “law enforcement” background and her “FBI” son she had to have connections.
She should have stepped up then and taken Daniel from Bad Anna and Big bad Howard or maybe it was because it would have been all unfounded.
We all know what is driving Virgie, Its Big Texas at the wheel of the Brinks truck. She knew Anna would never let her have her children or her money in life so she wants to steal it in death.
I too am a Mamma bear when it comes to my children and would fight heaven and earth for them(when they were alive)to prevent this from happening to them.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Oh Linda, get off of Nazarian because he puts down the one person in this world you identify and agree with more than God, Virgie Arthur. No one is making that horrible person famous, she wishes she was famous, I bet she cant even leave the house without out someone telling her how disgusting she is, but hey, at least she had some facial work done, maybe she will achieve being famous, maybe Hef will put her in Playboy, since she is almost as famous as Anna was, yeah, right.
And to the poster who said Virgie is fighting for what happened to daniel and Anna, take the blinders off, ok? She knows what happened, shes just mad DL Birkhead was born and took away her goldmine, its about as obvious as the Earth is round.
November 13th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
To Sarah,I just played the tape with virgie,putting her head on McCabe shoulders,VIRGIE IS ACTING.playing to the camera,she is better than Anna,she can not take her bible in hand,so next best thing,look so upset.If you noticed,just like OQ,McCABE,has to make a slam at howard.i have met and delt with many a lawyer,and i have never,nor would I THINK OF DOING THAT,EVEN THE LAWYER I WAS GOING TO MARRY,BEFORE HE DIED,ALWAYS SAID,ANY SIGN OF AFFECTION SHOULD BE DONE IN PRIVATE.I think all that was for the camera,and the people of the bahamas.and the court
November 13th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
debbie Says:
November 13th, 2007 at 2:19 am
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debbie #129,
You sound like You’ve been smoking crack! Hell, Virgie has no right to go after anyone, especially Howard. He loved Anna and that’s more than I can say for mama bull. I won’t attempt to go there with you about the meds. You’re right in one thing you said. Something’s going on here that you don’t seem to know anything about. It would take too long for me to explain it to you, so get that BS outta here!
November 13th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
To #129 {debbie}
I am so sorry that someone has given you FALSE FACTS!
Even if a prescription or two was in HKS’s name…there were also prescriptions in G.Ben Thompson’s name for Anna!!
I believe in my heart that the few months Anna stayed with Thomson & Shelly that she might have gone overboard w/ her prescriptions. I also believe that HKS & Dr. E were trying their best to wean her off everything in the Bahamas.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Howard loved Anna and her son, they were her family! He did nothing to cause their demise, he is not responsible for other people’s addictions!
SHAME ON YOU! For saying such hateful nonsense.
The only thing that will be revealed in the court room is how that Texas team paid people to lie, and how they; with malice tried to harm HKS, his family and other people that truly loved Anna & Daniel.
November 13th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Linda Says:
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Drink the kool aid and go away?? You could have used a different analogy (sp?) Vergie Arthur is what she is, no doubt. I just wonder, for all of you on here, who claim to dislike her so much, yet you spend so much time giving her the “fame” you all claim she wants. Its early morning, im sure I am not typing up to par. Please excuse me on that flaw. I just think that saying horrible things like this, is, in an essence, acting just like Vergie. So, keep talking, you all are making her FAMOUS! You dont llike her, most dont, so ignore her and dont give her any attention, and she might go away, but the kool aid joke was insensitive , I remember the story , and to this day it saddens me. To have a grown man get on a blog and spout such ignorant filth like that, is pathetic.
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Making her FAMOUS! ?? Is that what Virgie wants? To be FAMOUS? Is it GOOD to be FAMOUS? Virgie’s certainly INFAMOUS. And yes, she IS FAMOUS. VIrgie is FAMOUS for fighting her daughter’s last wishes tooth and nail, keeping her daughter on ice for two weeks while she tried to get Anna buried in a place she never wanted to return to, by people she hadn’t seen in over a decade – and away from her beloved son, whom ANNA buried in the Bahamas. She’s famous for shoveling dirt on her daughter’s grave in a fit of rage and stomping all over the grave when she was done. She’s famous for taking a FATHER to court to gain custody of her granddaughter’s bank account and control of her granddaughter’s finances. Virgie’s plenty FAMOUS already, but she’s not famous for ANYTHING anyone would WANT to be famous FOR. She’s famous for being a money grubbing, horrifyingly selfish woman. She wears her selfishness and GREED on her sleeve – she doesn’t even try to hide it.
Virgie’s famous alright. Everybody knows her name and shudders at the thought of her. She’s taking over where Freddie Krueger left off. Ah, fame, thy name is Virgie.
Scary.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Beverly…YEP, that is not professional at all.
November 14th, 2007 at 2:14 am
debbie Says:
November 13th, 2007 at 2:19 am
i think va should go after hks, he was the one with all the pills in his name and i truley believe he was the one
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Debbie, chill out. Do not deprive yourself of the TMZ camaraderie and disdain toward Howard.
November 14th, 2007 at 3:16 am
BEVERLY Says:
November 13th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
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Beverly,
I looks to me like VA plays to the cameras “and” the men around her.
I think VA actually believes that O’Quinn and McCabe are her friends. O’Quinn saw Virgie coming a mile away. She doesn’t have sense enough to know that she’s just a pawn in O’Quinn’s quest for increasing his own coffers.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
I do not agree with Vergie, if you people would read, you would see that I have said that. You can get your points across in more mature ways other then the kool aid crap. Vergie is dispicable, yes, but at least I can say it without some morbid retort like John did. I will say it yet again, I do not support Vergie.
November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Cobain, Belushi, Spector, one of the BG guys, etc. They all have something in common dealing with death, yet, none have been talked about as extensively as Anna Nicole.
In the past I seldom watched TV; therefore, I was not familiar with Anna being on TV other than on Larry King once in a while. Something got me started and it was the surprising news piece of Anna’s mother accusing her of being a murderer. Since then, I have been so curious, I just have had to watch the news to find out what that was all about. My curiosity grew out of proportion when Howard was being pummeled and now I need to know everything, all details until, hopefully it turns out to my satisfaction and peace of mind. If I need peace of mind, imagine how Howard must feel!
I can understand and imagine some idiot family member making accusations while in the company of family and friends in order to get a rise out of them, but… it takes the cake when a “peaceful” retired officer goes out in public in order to make the world a better place by informing all of the alleged crimes Anna and Howard had committed.
Since that woman cannot distinguish right from wrong, it would be to her benefit if someone credible who is connected with her, to publicly apologize for her actions for these past few months and acknowledge that she has had a full medical checkup and was found to be mentally incompetent. Only then and in time, most people will understand and forgive her.
November 15th, 2007 at 4:16 am
To Sarah,it is sad to say,Virgie, could never find love,even with all her husbands,because he had no love in herself to give. She has been driven,by the thought of someday,being rich with Marshall money,to some money is everything,and getting even with Howard for taking,her place and loving ANNA.I do not like saying this,but it is a fact.Virgie uses men,and OQ and McCabe happen to have money They are useing one another.I have been blessed.I get up every morning,winter and summer,and hear the fog horn,and the sea gulls,and in the summer I eat my meals by the Harbor watching the boats,I live across from the harbor. and thank God every day,the saying(THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE)IS TRUE.THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A SUNRISE OR SUNSET OVER THE OCEAN WATER,ALL FREE FOR THE TAKING.
November 15th, 2007 at 4:23 am
ps maybe that is what ANNA AND HOWARD found out.
November 15th, 2007 at 10:14 am
Thanks Art for the update! Stay strong Howard. VA and all the rest are being made to answer for their actions one by one. Cosby and Opri are getting what they deserve IMO. Who’s next to go down? Have a happy day…truth will prevail!
November 15th, 2007 at 11:43 am
If only a mother wanted answers, that would be acceptable. But she may have to turn the clock back a few years to get to the heart of the situation.
I read alot that Anna was a grown woman and could of easily made different choices about her addiction. Not everyone can beat addiction.
I also read that the home that Anna was sent to was a low income family. There’s facts that Anna was paid food stamps to buy herself things. So that’s proof the family didn’t have much. No heat for the home and Anna would steal toilet paper from restaurants. Read about someone saying she would stuff her purse with ketchup packets. Shows she didn’t get far away in her mind, of being poor. This family also had a pill popping habit? Monkey see, monkey do. That tape of her with her family at Xmas. Who brought her the pills? One of Virgie’s husbands? She’s just sitting there and the next she’s being supplied? Why isn’t that brought up? All the talk of Howard and Dr. Kris being the ones to bring her to her demise. Seems it started in her own home at a very young age.
And for those of you who say some people talk to much..sorry. I still am of the mindset that she was ready to move away from her addiction/s. That she was making peace with her youth and ready to step into a new realm. Then her whole world crumbled. My wish is for her and Daniel to finally rest in piece. And to those who didn’t help when they could, to toss and turn.
November 15th, 2007 at 11:46 am
I have read the kool aid comments before and never for one second connected them to the jim Jones thing never even thought about it untill someone mentioned it here.IMO most people don’t think of that when thinking of kool aid drinking.So I don’t think John meant it in that way.
November 15th, 2007 at 11:46 am
Isabel#141…You read my mind!! Excellant..well written!
November 15th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
#140 Linda, If you don’t support Virgie, then what’s wrong with the kool aid? LOL
November 15th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
I wonder…
Was Virgie a bad mom? or was Vickie a bad daughter?
Guess there’s plenty of blame, and where are the fathers?
Sitting in bathrooms across America, looking at Playboy Magazines, I guess.
November 16th, 2007 at 12:46 am
Beverly…well said and I am with you on that one about the sunsets, the beautiful and peaceful things in life are free. I too enjoy the breeze. Some like to stay in the dark, not me, I love the fresh air and good things in life. I truly believe that is why Anna and Howard moved to the Bahamas. To get away from people with a dark soul full of hate and jealously. Some just can’t relax and enjoy life.
November 16th, 2007 at 6:04 am
DEAR ART,AND EVERYONE,MAY YOU ALL ENJOY,YOUR THANKGIVING,MY PRAYER AT THE DINNER TABLE WILL BE,A GOOD AND HEALTHY YEAR FOR EVERYONE AND JUST MAYBE GOOD LUCK FOR HOWARD,LARRY,AND THERE FAMILY.THE GOOD LORD HAS GIVEN ME A LOT TO BE GRATEFUL FOR. HAPPY THANKGIVING HAPPY THANKGIVING.PS A SPECIAL HUG AND KISS,FOR DANNIELYNN
November 16th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
To nolongerbewildered
very good post, THANKS!
November 28th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Here is an article on the kidnap/murder plot of the parapelic woman that involves Donald Ray Hart jr, Virgie’s son. this is the same son who was injured with her firearm.
http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=1993_1160997
**sniped**
Fleischer, a 33-year-old paraplegic who could do little to defend herself, was rescued from her abductors’ car Thursday night after police in the Central Texas town of Mexia were alerted that the group might have headed there after taking her from her home.
On Friday, with her accused kidnappers in the Montgomery County Jail, she was able to relax again in the home she shares with Philip Pierce near Cut and Shoot.
Fleischer and sheriff’s detectives said she was kidnapped and targeted for murder by Pierce’s estranged lover, Lisa Hadley.
Hadley, 28, of Humble, was charged with aggravated kidnapping, as were the three friends whom officers said she persuaded to help her. The others are Tyrone Matthew Black, 19, and Eric Noble Gearheart, 18, both of Humble, and Donald Ray Hart Jr., 21, of the 1600 block of Mosher in Houston